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2019-03-24_e-Stang_charger_testing Posted on March 24, 2019 14:57:37.
Mustang 240V charging with dead fans
3/24/2019
Charger fans died second time. First was Papst IPC 1154 rated that only lasted 3 years, required charging at 7.5 amps on warm days because it would not cut back agressively enough and would cut off.
Second ones were Delta IPC 1155s that lasted 9.5 years.
Without fans in 56 degree weather inside the garage, after 10 minutes at max 20 battery amps or 8 MPH charge rate it got above 100C and throttled to 16 amps at 107C, 6.4 MPH.
Put a ~18" fan pointed down in the engine compartment and the temperature dropped to 105C and increased to 18A, 7.2 MPH. This might be an acceptable workaround if 120V is also available but it usually isn't. I might try powering the fan on the inverter.
Throttled to 14A or 5.6 MPH and it went to 100C, so the max recommended at 56F. This is pretty linear though so I thought I'd go down in current and see where the temperature stabilized.
12A gave 94C, 4.8 MPH
10A gave 82C, 4.0 MPH
8A gave 74C, 3.2 MPH
6A gave 64C, 2.4 MPH
120V charges at 5A or 2.0 MPH so probably below this.
So assuming linear shift:
56F ambient 14A max 5.6 MPH 70%
68F 12A 4.8 60%
90F 10A 4.0 50%
106F 8A 3.2 40%
It hasn't ever gotten hotter than this.
126F 6A 2.4 30%
2018-10-14 e-Golf Drive To Santa Cruz Posted on October 22, 2018 08:57:45.
Left Santa Rosa full Sat PM. Arrived at 25% charge at Whole Foods off Stevens Creek at Hwy 85. Very crowded, too forever to get in and out
Started fast charging on EVGo at 3:19 PM. Stopped at 3:54 PM 93% charged.
Went to Felton, then back to ScottÕs Valley, did not charge overnight. 21/32 charge left.
Arrived Sun AM with 69% charge at Santa Cruz Whole Foods EVGo, 99 amps 9:24 AM, 100% at 9/58 AM.
Went up to Summit Road, then down to Lexington Reservoir, then SJC, then Apple visitor center. Filled up to 27/32 on level 2 Chargepoint. Had to get employee to help, it was misconfigured and wouldnÕt accept visitorÕs card.
Went back to SJC, then arrived at 27% at Terra Linda 6:14 PM EVGo fast charger. Stopped at 73% at 6:38 PM.
2018-10-03 e-Golf Long Drives Mar-Sep 2018 Posted on October 04, 2018 00:08:56.
Vacaville 3/16/2018
66 miles to Vacaville Journey Coffee, 5/8 tank left, 47 degrees, eco plus mode all the way, 60 mph except once override to pass. No heat.
Around 73 miles at Vacaville Kaiser 19/32 tank left so ~178 mile range, 4.3 mi/wh. But it said 81 miles left, 154 miles. Need 54 miles to get back to work chargers in Rohnert Park plus 25 buffer so 79 could make it without charging. But there are 3 Sema Connect chargers and no one here. One person came up with a plug-in but didnÕt plug in grrr. Need to get a Sema Connect card, but 800 number worked. Charged about 45 minutes, 94 mi range when I left.
Truckee 3/30 Š 4/1/2018
Stopped at Walmart in West Sac, ate at Chipotle. 32% charge when we arrived. Fast charge on EVgo. 70 degrees out, 8 PM. When done charging after 30 minutes charge was at 27/32 with 130 mile range.
Passed Roseville fast charger 11/16, Loomis 5/8, Auburn 1/2, Colfax 5/16.
Stop at Dutch Flat with 5/32 left and only 13 mile range, too low, 57 deg out. Only charged at 81 amps, not 100 amps. Batteries must have been too hot after climbing the hill, causing battery manager to throttle back the charge rate. 9/16 charge when we left.
Kingvale chargers were gray = not network connected, so we stopped at Nyack with 3/8 left. Only charged at 66 amps. Finished after ? hour at only 66% and 49 mi range. Maybe charging at Colfax better, before the big hill?
3/8 when we arrived at Tahoe Donner. 120V charged from there.
Left full 4/1/2018, drove 88 miles to West Sacramento, 32% charge left. After ? hour got up to 84%
Truckee 7/6-8/2018
Stopped in Davis at 40% at 8:13 pm; 100% 45 mins later.
Stopped at Colfax at 40%; charged at only 70 amps...too hot again? Only 84% after 45 mins. Restarted the charge at 49 amps and charged another 15 mins up to 93%.
Arrived in Truckee with 27% charge. 120V charge overnight.
The next day charged at Tahoe City Save Mart, 45% at 9:38 am, 90% after 1/2 hour. Went to Emerald Bay and back to Truckee. Charged 120V overnight.
Left for Donner Pass full! Sunday 9:40 AM, arrive at PCT trailhead 27/32, arrive back in Truckee 5 pm 7/8. Charged on 120V for a little, then left for home 6:50 pm 29/32.
Arrive West Sac Walmart 42%. Left at 9:10 after it stopped at 89%.
Truckee 9/21-23/2018
Leave Santa Rosa full 6 PM. Stopped at Davis 49% 8:03 pm 82 degrees. Full before 8:44, less than 41 minutes.
Stopped at Colfax 9:52, 43%, 72 degrees. Charged at full 100 amps, down to 32 amps at 96% when it stopped at 10:36, 45 minutes later.
Arrived at Truckee ~11:30 PM with ~35% charge.
Left for home Sunday midday. Started at 13/16, forgot to re-plug in after going shopping Saturday.
77% at Albertsons, charged at 99 amps 1:02 pm, at 1:24 99%.
Stopped at Vacaville outlet mall 9/32. One SAE combo was busy. Used EV Go level 2 charger 30 amps 240V 20 MPH charge rate 4:30 PM start 39 mile range. At 4:55 switched to fast charger. At 5:19 stopped at 75%.
4 long gas burning trips in the eGolf since weÕve had the eGolf
1. College tours in April to UCLA, UCSD and Cal Poly. Did not feel like we had the time to charge on our compressed trip, but should recalculate.
2. Cal Poly orientation late July.
3. Backpacking in early August in Desolation; not enough cargo for 4 backpacks but could get topper.
4. Cal Poly dropoff mid-September.
2017-12-26 e-Golf Drive From Truckee Posted on December 27, 2017 14:30:14.
Left Tahoe Donner 6:20 AM after filling on 120V, 1619 ODO, 21F. All heater systems off.
Arrive 7:19 AM Save Mart on Keitzke Lane in Reno, 76% charge, 1662 ODO, 28F. Fast charged while shopping at Lowes. Left full around 8 AM.
Arrive 8:47 AM at Save Mart Truckee, 63% charge, 1703 ODO, 25F. Fast charged while eating Breakfast at Truckee Bagel. Topped up to 97% charge.
Arrived at Tahoe Donner, 1708 ODO. Filled up on 120V in garage. Left full at 2 PM.
Arrived in Vacaville 4:45 PM, 11/32 charge, 1844 ODO, 57 mi range left. Started Level II EVgo charge. A little while later there was a "Charging error 5" and it stopped charging. It only got to 7/16 charge, 72 mi range. No text or email sent, but the app did show it was offline; we thought the app had crashed. Switched to fast charge at 7:05 PM, 57F. Stopped it early, 13/16 charge, 135 mi range. Called EVgo to report incident. They said there was a power surge that shut it down for safety. Asked for text warning next time, and for a waived fast charge fee. They wrote it in their notes; we will see.
Arrived home in Santa Rosa, 11/32 charge, 1904 ODO, 46F, 47 mi range.
2017-12-22 e-Golf Drive To Truckee Posted on December 27, 2017 14:24:16.
Left Santa Rosa 2:30 PM, both thermostats 65F, 1392 ODO.
Arrived at Roseville Whole Foods 5:15 PM, 18% charge, 1502 ODO, 25 mile range. Fast charged while eating dinner at Whole Foods. 69% charge after 30 minutes.
Arrived in Colfax 6:35 PM, 29% charge, 1536 ODO. Fast charged on rightmost charger successfully this time, compared to it failing when driving up for Thanksgiving. Left with 13/16 charge at 7:09 PM.
Arrive Nyack Shell 7:38 PM after overshooting 1 exit, 43% charge, 1562 ODO. Left at 8:13 PM with 87% charge. Kingvale was offline!
Arrive at Tahoe Donner 8:50 PM, 9/16 charge, 1594 ODO, 55 mi range. Total time 6:20, drive time 4:40, charge time 1:40. Took 3 stops this time, probably due to being colder than at Thanksgiving; forgot to record temperature this time.
2017-11-30 e-Stang range test Posted on December 02, 2017 16:59:31.
Drove 31.8 miles, 12.1 miles in the morning and 19.7 after work, 30.9 total before the 2.9 min cell voltage yellow light came on. Red light expected within a mile, so estimate 33 mile range. But this involved several miles of steady ~20 MPH freeway traffic driving, and coasting and dropping to 20 MPH at one point since I was hypermiling and no one was behind me, which probably added a few miles compared to driving the speed limit. So count on 30 miles, or 24 miles to keep the pack above 20% capacity.
2017-11-24 e-Golf Drive From Truckee Posted on November 26, 2017 14:08:58.
Car fully charged from 3/16 in 27 hours on 120V. ODO 823.
Went on 20 miles of errands around Truckee, then left for home. Left at 3:59 PM, fuel gage 7/8, range 96 miles, ODO 843 miles.
- At bottom of Northwoods, 7/8, 117, 847, 50 degrees outside.
- At Donner Summit exit 176, 25/32, 77, 854, 45.
- Drove past chargers in Kingvale exit 171, 25/32, 104, 860, 47.
- Nyack exit 156, 23/32, 107, 875, 52.
- Dutch Flat exit 145, 23/32, 132, 886, 55.
- Colfax exit 135, 11/16, 127, 896, 61.
- Auburn exit 119C, 5/8, 116, 911, 64.
- Loomis exit 110, 5/8, 113, 920, 64, 7.1 mi/kWh, the best reported for the day, after 7K' drop in 66 miles.
- Roseville exit 105A, 19/32, 110, 925, 66.
- West Sac exit 88, 7/16, 73, 948, 64.
- Davis exit 72, 11/32, 52, 958, 63.
- Dixon exit 66, 5/16, 42, 965, 63. Safely dafted behind truck at 60 to 65 MPH.
- Eco mode came on 31 mile range exit 56 505 Redding.
Charged in Vacaville exit 55, 18%, 31, 978. 155 miles driven! 18%. Started at 6:19. 20.1 kWh drawn on fast charger, then moved to level II and drew 7.6 kWh until full. Left at 8:15 PM, after outlet mall shopping and dinner.
Arrived home at 9:37 PM, 23/32, 88, 1038, 56.
Fast Charging Station List Posted on November 23, 2017 23:59:12.
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2017-11-22 e-Golf Drive To Truckee Posted on November 23, 2017 18:25:36.
Started full in Santa Rosa, 134 mile range, 6:15 PM, ODO 630 miles. Recuperation mode 3, eco mode, heater set to 65. Generally going speed limit, up to 65 on freeway. Mostly light traffic.
- Drove by Fairfield chargers, range 92, ODO 681, 3 out of 25 chargers between Santa Rosa and Truckee taken.
- Drove by Vacaville, range 89, ODO 687.
- Drove by Dixon, range 81, ODO 697.
Charged in Davis, range 77, ODO 704, 7:56 PM arrive, 4.6 mi/kWh, 62 degrees outside. 96% after 30 mins.$11, 16 kWh, 149 mile range. Took almost 1 hour to eat at Hot Italian pizza.
- Drove by Roseville, range 93, ODO 739.
- Drove by Loomis, range 85, ODO 743.
- Drove by Auburn, range 59, ODO 752, fuel 17/32.
Charged in Colfax, fuel 3/8, range 35, ODO 768, 9:59 PM arrive. Right charger "#1" failed twice after trying to communicate with vehicle, said "transaction voided". Submitted report from EVgo app. Successfully started on left charger "#2", 36%, 100 amps. After 30 mins, down to 88 amps, 85%, 357 VDC, 17 kWh. Range 84, left at 10:39. 54 miles to go per Google Maps.
- Drove by Dutch Flat, fuel 23/32, range 62, ODO 781, 54 degrees outside - hot! 10:53 PM.
- Drove by Nyack, fuel 17/32, range 38, ODO 791.
- Drove by Kingvale, fuel 3/8, range 30, ODO 805.
- At Donner summit fuel 1/4, range 17, ODO 812, 40 degrees out.
- At Truckee turnoff exit 184, fuel 1/4, range 30, ODO 818, 41 degrees out.
Reached Tahoe Donner destination with fuel 3/16, range 22, ODO 823. Plugged in to 120V; 27 hours estimated charge time.